# Re: Blank() & Zero problem

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10 - Mercury

Hi guys,

When I’m using Blank() in a formula (to flag empty fields) it also counts the number ‘0’ as a blank, and the other way around.

So when I have a formula that says {MyNumberField} = 0 it also registers the empty fields as zeroes.

Has this always been the case? At the very least I’d expect the more specific {MyNumberField} = Blank() to neglect ‘0’ fields.

Arthur.

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10 - Mercury

BTW: the workaround I use…

``IF(LEN({Inventory Change} & "") = 0, TRUE(), FALSE())``
10 - Mercury

I figured out why I thought it was working before; it does give the correct result when you reverse the argument. In my example:

``````IF({Inventory Change} != BLANK(), FALSE(), TRUE())
``````

In this case ‘0’ is not equal to BLANK().

10 - Mercury

@Danielle - Nice that this has been moved to another forum, but it is still a bug / serious inconsistency.

4 - Data Explorer

I had this issue and found that:

`!=Blank()` returns true for empty string columns
`!=""` returns false for zeros values like ‘0’ and ‘0:00’ time values

So the best solution is to use COUNTA

18 - Pluto

Perhaps. While `COUNTA()` is great for number fields, and does technically work for text fields as well, I prefer to use whatever method works best for the field type I’m checking. For example, if I’m checking a text field, there’s no need to compare against anything to see if it’s empty:

``````IF({Field Name}, true_output, false_output)
``````

The presence of any text in a text field equates to True, while an empty text field equates to false. This also works with other fields that return strings like single select, multiple select, etc.

10 - Mercury

I use this a lot too, but let’s be clear that these are all workarounds and not solutions @Sean_Dawson. Let’s not risk closing a thread because someone thinks it’s been solved.

Airtable still needs to address this serious inconsistency.

18 - Pluto

I don’t see the technique I mentioned as a workaround. It’s consistent with how many programming languages look at strings when used in `if()` statements: empty strings equate to False, non-empty strings equate to True. In other words, I’m not using that because it works around the issue with `BLANK()`. I’m using it because of its consistency with how strings are treated in that logical context in programming.

That I agree with 100%. Comparing against `BLANK()` still produces inconsistent results, and I’m surprised that it hasn’t yet been addressed.

10 - Mercury

Sure. I meant it in the context of the post.

5 - Automation Enthusiast

Sending virtual hug for COUNTA (). My vote talley’s now work beautifully. Thank you.

6 - Interface Innovator

currency and number fields do not handle “0” and blank values differently: “field = BLANK()” results in TRUE if blank OR zero “0” ( OR(field = BLANK(), field = 0 ), results in FALSE if checking for “field = 0” even if you enter zero “0” dollars as a value

row1 field = 0: blank = TRUE, field = 0 TRUE

row2 field = empty: blank = TRUE, field = 0 TRUE

Also:

{test number}<.1 evaluates to true when {test number} = 0

{test number}<.1 evaluates to true when {test number} is blank

4 - Data Explorer

This is still an issue in 2022. My formula returns the override if its anything greater than zero but ignores if it is zero because it does not recognize zero as a value. And since the rest of the formula relies on heavy math and not just true false logic there doesn’t seem to be a workaround.

F(AND({Expense Approval}=BLANK(),{How is this being paid for?}=“Agent PP”),IF({PP Override}=BLANK(),SUM(IF({Materials/Vendor Cost}=BLANK(),IF({Estimated Material/Vendor Cost}=BLANK(),(Quantity{Estimated Per/Unit Cost}),{Estimated Material/Vendor Cost}),{Materials/Vendor Cost}),IF({Time Spent}=BLANK(),({Estimated Design Time}{External Design Rate}),(((CEILING({Time Spent}/3600)3600)/3600){External Design Rate*}))),{PP Override}))

18 - Pluto

Welcome to the Airtable community!

@Joshua_Pennington think I answered this question for you on the Facebook community.

For others who might find this thread, here is the gist of the solution.

``````IF( {override field}, {override field}, {original field})
``````

use …

``````IF( {override field} & "", {override field}, {original field})
``````

This converts the number field into a string. If the number field is truly blank, the resulting string will still be “false”, but if the number field has the value of zero, the resulting string will be “true”.

10 - Mercury

Which is basically what I propose in the second post. :slightly_smiling_face:

10 - Mercury

I’m pretty sure by now we can forget about this behavior ever being changed as it will most likely have way too much impact on current implementations. That still doesn’t make it ‘right’ though.

10 - Mercury

Never mind. :slightly_smiling_face: Apparently the additional LEN trick is not needed (anymore?) as casting it as a string works great.

4 - Data Explorer

Yes! This ended up working perfectly. I’m looking forward to learning from you at the Daretable conference.

6 - Interface Innovator

Not sure if needed anymore but my solution is to check if the formula equaled 0 and write 0 as text instead of integer:

`IF([formula that could equal 0]=0,"0",[formula that could equal 0])`