Nov 09, 2021 12:07 AM
Whaaaaat?! :open_mouth:
Nov 09, 2021 03:01 AM
Hi @Databaser ,
It looks like an Airtable’s Workflow missing (third)part,
long awaited I guess,
but google doesn’t know anything about where to heck find it ! ! !
Neither by words nor by screenshot itself !
Do you have some URL to share ?
Regards,
oLπ
Nov 09, 2021 03:09 AM
Nov 09, 2021 03:16 AM
Oh ! ! ! :grinning_face_with_big_eyes: surprised Definitely Amazing ! ! ! @Jordan_Scott1
This reminds me of Community’s 1st-Class Expert predictions, and then the acquisition of a specialized DEV team in data visualization by Airtable !
Thank you @Chintan_Savaliya !
Nov 09, 2021 06:54 AM
It would be really cool if we could make these interfaces accessible for external users. One of the benefits would be, not needing Stacker (€ 1.500 a year or so) anymore!
Nov 09, 2021 07:13 AM
That I agree with you @Databaser !
Well, there are cheaper and sexier than Stacker when you want to exhibit / share something other than strictly tabular tables, more looking from a “Document As An App” to some kind of WEB App or Site UX, but this kind of supplement seriously increases the annual bill that is added to the rental of Airtable!
Nov 09, 2021 07:57 AM
Would be great if we could share an interface with specific users without sharing an entire base. Not that practical for us otherwise. Any plans to do so?
Nov 09, 2021 08:40 AM
As I predicted about a year ago, the aftermarket erosion had began (way back here) and is now in overdrive. Typically, aftermarket providers are one step ahead of the primary vendor, but in this case, the Interfaces feature targets specifically the Stacker value proposition and likely many others:
They need a bigger boat.
But I digress because as @J_Jones makes clear, Airtable has fundamentally erred [in the short run] by locking design with data. This is not the end of the world and other aspects of Airtable (like script actions) are also bound by the base - clearly not ideal. But like automations, scripting, and custom apps - Interfaces will be a huge hit for the largely no/low-code users who came here looking for – wait for it – a cool UI that makes them more productive with data.
Nov 09, 2021 02:59 PM
It would be amazing if they had a way to let you add in a block with a script or something similar. I think we are going to find some good uses for this. Always been wanting a nice overview/dashboard view.
Nov 10, 2021 01:05 PM
I think this is inherently possible as designed. I defer to @kuovonne because she’s the only human on the planet who knows the most about Interfaces at this time, but if you consider…
Am I missing a use case that cannot be met through indirection external to custom Interfaces?
Nov 10, 2021 01:15 PM
You can trigger automations from an interface with data changes, the same as you would from a grid view or a portal. This is what I have done in my videos. However, with the limits of 25 automations and 50K runs, this method has scalability issues. Native support for locally run scripts/automations/actions from an interface without limits would be great but does not exist yet.
One of the design issues with running scripts from an interface is that many scripts need a place for input/output. That involves complex design choices that Airtable did not want to tackle in this first release.
Nov 10, 2021 01:34 PM
Good to know.
Perhaps it goes without asking but can you modify the data in an Interface using script blocks or script actions, or custom apps that are operating completely external to the Interface itself?
Nov 10, 2021 01:38 PM
Interfaces currently have no access to Scripting app. They currently have no access to any apps, custom or otherwise. However, the interface does reflect data changes created outside of the interface, although there are a few update bugs that I experienced in my video when I had to force a refresh to see changes.
Nov 10, 2021 01:52 PM
That’s not the question.
Bingo - that’s the question. Circling back to @Faculty_Scheduling, there should be few issues – if any – to using script to effectuate influences upon Interfaces as I mentioned here.
Nov 11, 2021 06:25 AM
Thanks for the answer. Yea that makes sense that some scripts can still run to effect change based on the data from records.
I guess for me I was thinking more about the input/output being on the interface so that we could create custom ways to view the data if that makes sense.
Nov 11, 2021 08:29 AM
Yes, I noticed that too and it has dampened my initial excitement about Interfaces a little. I am still excited and totally understand that this is a feature right now that is only two days old. But at the moment, Interfaces looks to me almost like another app with a specialized function — say, an interactive version of the Page Designer — rather than being a comprehensive replacement for Softr or Stacker or even MiniExtensions. The great thing about those third-party apps has been and still is that they allow the developer (me) to keep end-users completely out of Airtable.
Nov 11, 2021 09:54 AM
I find that my enthusiasm for Interfaces has actually grown over the past
couple of days. The current feature set makes implementing some functionality
more challenging than I would like, but the I find the possibilities even greater
today than I did two days ago.
A comprehensive replacement for a portal system requires an overhaul of the pricing model.
I do not expect such a system from Airtable without a pricing redesign.
Security is always an issue. Given that Airtable’s emphasis is on larger business, as stated in this interview, Airtable is undoubtedly hard at work on improving security/permissions. I expect that they have been working on it for a while. Over a year ago, I noticed that Airtable was looking to hire people who specialize in security. I suspect that they found great people who have been hard at work at this very complex issue.
Nov 11, 2021 10:11 AM
I got this answer:
We do hope to develop ways to share Interfaces externally, but we’re just not quite there yet in the beta!
Nov 11, 2021 10:36 AM
Airtable is undoubtedly hard at work on improving security/permissions. I expect that they have been working on it for a while. Over a year ago, I noticed that Airtable was looking to hire people who specialize in security. I suspect that they found great people who have been hard at work at this very complex issue.
And I have been thrilled by the very recent improvements in control over sharing privileges. That change — just a month or two ago — has finally allowed me to go forward with some projects that previously I just couldn’t do in good conscience.
And I’m encouraged by your enthusiasm for the Interface Designer. You’ve spent more time with it than I but I hope to dig into it more deeply soon.
William